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Training Date: 23 Dec 2015

Time: 11 am    Weather: 75 & Sunny  Location: Coble's Ranch

Summary: Today we set out with friends to have a great day on the range, no training, just fun. Thanks to the great prices at Defender Ammunition we had an ample supply of ammunition to keep the fun rolling. I don't have round counts for our friends guns but they included a Glock pistol and an M4. Everyone got to shoot the VP9 and of course we have two new converts! The typical target distances and firing grips are not in the summary because I was not keeping track, I was just shooting. We had an array of targets as you can see from the pictures below. Steel was set at 30-40 yards and paper targets were engaged at 3, 9, 17, and 30 yards. We also set up paper and steel targets at 50 yards, for rifle and pistol respectively. I can say I did not hit the 4" or 2" steel at 50 yards so I have that to keep me humble. Pictures next followed by the summary.

 

 

Summary:

Marty's Vp9 H&K VP 9 | 9 mm Luger rounds fired: 420 | Running total: 3112 rounds fired

Leah's VP9 H&K VP 9 | 9 mm Luger rounds fired: 165 | Running total: 832 rounds fired

Marty's Sub Compact H&K P2000sk | 9 mm Luger rounds fired: 50 |Running total: 1277 rounds fired

Leah's Sig SIG Sauer P238 | .380 ACP rounds fired: 30 | Running total: 901

 

Firearm : Marty's Vp9 H&K VP 9 9 mm Luger

Configuration: Dawson Precision Sights, red fiber optic front and blacked out rear.

Ammo : Defender Ammunition Company 9 mm Luger Round Nose 147

Rounds Fired:  420

Ammo Costs:  $80.64

 

Firearm : Marty's Sub Compact H&K P2000sk 9 mm Luger

Configuration: Light LEM trigger, stock sights

Ammo : Defender Ammunition Company 9 mm Luger Round Nose 147 

Rounds Fired:  50

Ammo Costs:  $9.60

 

Firearm : Leah's VP9 H&K VP 9 9 mm Luger

Configuration: Stock

Ammo : Defender Ammunition Company 9 mm Luger Round Nose 147 

Rounds Fired:  165

Ammo Costs:  $31.68

 

Firearm : Leah's Sig SIG Sauer P238 .380 ACP

Configuration: G10 Grips

Ammo : Defender Ammunition Company Factory Re-manufactured .380 ACP Round Nose 100

Rounds Fired:  30

Ammo Costs:  $6.72

 

 

Training Date: 23 Dec 2015

Time: 11 am    Weather: 65 & Sunny  Location: Guns Plus

Summary: Today we set out to focus on trigger press. I had a secondary goal to determine whether I was in love enough with my 45c's trigger to keep it (DA/SA) or convert it to light LEM. After a long wait to get on the range, we got on and got to work. Luckily the folks next to us who were apparently enthralled with beating each other up with a 12 gauge did not stay beyond a box of ammunition because having them right next to us was not pleasant. :)
Marty's Vp9 H&K VP 9 9 mm Luger rounds fired: 30 total rounds through firearm: 2492
Leah's VP9 H&K VP 9 9 mm Luger rounds fired: 167 total rounds through firearm: 512
Marty's 45 H&K 45c .45 ACP rounds fired: 80 total rounds through firearm: 490
Marty's Sub Compact H&K P2000sk 9 mm Luger rounds fired: 40 total rounds through firearm: 1227
Leah's Sig SIG Sauer P238 .380 ACP rounds fired: 35 total rounds through firearm: pending

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This drill is a controlled pair drill focusing on trigger press. 2 rounds fired per square, 4 squares total.

Firearm : Marty's 45 H&K 45c .45 ACP
Configuration: Factory Setup
Ammo : Defender Ammunition Company Defender RN 45 .45 ACP Round Nose 230
Set Type: Training
Firing Method: Controlled Pairs
Firing Stance: Modified Weaver
Firing Grip: Thumbs Forward
Rounds Fired: 24
Ammo Costs: $7.68
Distance: 10
Group Size: 1



 

 

 

 

 

 


 

target2Same drill as previous: This drill is a controlled pair drill focusing on trigger press. 2 rounds fired per square, 4 squares total.

Firearm : Leah's Sig SIG Sauer P238 .380 ACP
Configuration: Factory Setup
Ammo : Defender Ammunition Company Factory New .380 ACP Hollow Point 90
Set Type: Training
Firing Method: Controlled Pairs
Firing Stance: Weaver
Firing Grip: Thumbs Forward
Rounds Fired: 15
Ammo Costs: $5.93
Distance: 10
Group Size: 2
Target Reference Number: 2
Firearm : Leah's VP9 H&K VP 9 9 mm Luger
Configuration: Factory Setup
Ammo : Defender Ammunition Company Factory Remanufactured 9 mm Luger Hollow Point 147
Set Type: Training
Firing Method: Controlled Pairs
Firing Stance: Weaver
Firing Grip: Thumbs Forward
Rounds Fired: 47
Ammo Costs: $15.08
Distance: 10 Group Size: 2
 


 


target3Continuing the same drill, this time from 12 feet. The bottom row 28,21,14,7 Feb is HK45c. Above that is a mix of Leah's VP9 & Sig.

This drill is a controlled pair drill focusing on trigger press. 2 rounds fired per square, 4 squares total.

Firearm : Leah's Sig SIG Sauer P238 .380 ACP
Configuration: Factory Setup
Ammo : Defender Ammunition Company Factory New .380 ACP Hollow Point 90 Set Type: Training Firing Method: Controlled Pairs
Firing Stance: Weaver Firing Grip: Thumbs Forward
Rounds Fired: 10 Ammo Costs: $3.95 Distance: 12 Group Size: 2
Firearm : Leah's VP9 H&K VP 9 9 mm Luger
Ammo : Defender Ammunition Company Factory Remanufactured 9 mm Luger Hollow Point 147 Set Type: Training
Firing Method: Controlled Pairs Firing Stance: Weaver
Firing Grip: Thumbs Forward Rounds Fired: 25 Ammo Costs: $8.02 Distance: 12 Group Size: 1 Target Reference Number: 3
Firearm : Leah's VP9 H&K VP 9 9 mm Luger Configuration: Factory Setup Ammo : Defender Ammunition Company Factory New 9 mm Luger Hollow Point 124 Set Type: Training Firing Method: Controlled Pairs Firing Stance: Weaver Firing Grip: Thumbs Forward Rounds Fired: 20
Ammo Costs: $3.57 Distance: 12 Group Size: 1
Firearm : Marty's 45 H&K 45c .45 ACP Configuration: Factory Setup Ammo : Defender Ammunition Company DAC factory Blemish .45 ACP Hollow Point 230 Set Type: Training Firing Method: Controlled Pairs Firing Stance: Modified Weaver Firing Grip: Thumbs Forward
Rounds Fired: 24 Ammo Costs: $8.16 Distance: 12 Group Size: 0.5 Target Reference Number: 3


This drill is a trigger press drill we got courtesy of this National Shooting Sports Foundation's video. 1 live shot with a deliberate trigger press, target4hold the trigger, reset the trigger, dry fire trigger press. Then do it all again. I found that I really pushed on my second shot with the 45c. The following two pictures are the results of this drill.

Firearm : Leah's Sig SIG Sauer P238 .380 ACP
Configuration: Factory Setup
Ammo : Defender Ammunition Company Factory New .380 ACP Hollow Point 90
Set Type: Training
Firing Method: Slow Fire (SF)
Firing Stance: Weaver
Firing Grip: Thumbs Forward
Rounds Fired: 10
Ammo Costs: $3.95
Distance: 12
Group Size: 8
Target Reference Number: 4

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

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Firearm : Marty's 45 H&K 45c .45 ACP

Configuration: Factory Setup
Ammo : Defender Ammunition Company DAC factory Blemish .45 ACP Hollow Point 230
Set Type: Training
Firing Method: Slow Fire (SF)
Firing Stance: Modified Weaver
Firing Grip: Thumbs Forward
Rounds Fired: 8
Ammo Costs: $2.72
Distance: 12
Group Size: 6
Target Reference Number: 5

 



target6This drill and the next drill were inspired by these two videos: Part 1 and Part 2. Essentially we press out as slow or as fast as we want but as soon as we have sight alignment you press the trigger. The goal is not to have the gun out in front all day. Just acquire and press. This and the next picture are from that drill.

Firearm : Leah's VP9 H&K VP 9 9 mm Luger
Configuration: Factory Setup
Ammo : Defender Ammunition Company Factory New 9 mm Luger Hollow Point 124
Set Type: Training
Firing Method: Quick Fire Firing Stance: Weaver

Firing Grip: Thumbs Forward

Rounds Fired: 30 Ammo Costs: $5.36
Distance: 12 Group Size: 8

target7

 

Firearm : Marty's 45 H&K 45c .45 ACP
Configuration: Factory Setup
Ammo : Defender Ammunition Company DAC factory Blemish .45 ACP Hollow Point 230
Set Type: Training
Firing Method: Quick Fire
Firing Stance: Modified Weaver
Firing Grip: Thumbs Forward
Rounds Fired: 24 Ammo Costs: $8.16
Distance: 12 Group Size: 6








target8Leah, finishing the day up from 15 feet.

Firearm : Leah's VP9 H&K VP 9 9 mm Luger
Configuration: Factory Setup
Ammo : Defender Ammunition Company DAC Factory Blemish 9 mm Luger Plated Round Nose 115
Set Type: Self Defense
Firing Method: Rapid Fire (RF)
Firing Stance: Weaver
Firing Grip: Thumbs Forward
Rounds Fired: 45 Ammo Costs: $7.19
Distance: 15 Group Size: 8


 


 

target9

Finishing the day up I needed to compare the LEM trigger after 

firing the 45c all day to determine if I neeed to send the 45 off to have the trigger converted. I do. I simply do not want the safety and need all my carry firearms to have the same manual of arms. I can't tell you why, but I like the LEM trigger better. Center mass circle is from 15 feet and is from the P200sk the other two sets are from 21 feet with the VP9.

Firearm : Marty's Sub Compact H&K P2000sk 9 mm Luger
Ammo : Defender Ammunition Company DAC Factory Blemish 9 mm Luger Plated Round Nose 115
Set Type: Self Defense
Firing Method: Rapid Fire (RF)
Firing Stance: Modified Weaver
Firing Grip: Thumbs Forward
Rounds Fired: 40
Ammo Costs: $6.39
Distance: 15
Group Size: 4
Target Reference Number: Last

Firearm : Marty's Vp9 H&K VP 9 9 mm Luger
Configuration: Dawson's And Grip
Ammo : Defender Ammunition Company DAC Factory Blemish 9 mm Luger Plated Round Nose 115
Set Type: Self Defense
Firing Method: Rapid Fire (RF)
Firing Stance: Modified Weaver
Firing Grip: Thumbs Forward
Rounds Fired: 30
Ammo Costs: $4.79
Distance: 21
Group Size: 4
Target Reference Number: Last

 

Training Date: 9 Dec 2015

Time: 11 am    Weather: 56 & Sunny  Location:  Coble's Farm

 Ammunition

Brand:  Defender Grain/cal:  124 grain/9mm Type: HP reman
Brand:  Defender Grain/cal:  230 grain/45 Type: RN reman velocity 781 fps
Brand:  Winchester Grain/cal:  230 grain/45 Type: RN reman
Brand:  Defender Grain/cal:  .380 Type: RN reman

Marty's Weapon: HK 45c

Total Rounds per weapon in this session: 160

Total Round count in weapon: 288

Confirmed! Will definitely be keeping trigger in this weapon. Will order a talon grip for it. Definitely need purchase on the side straps and for my support thumb. I need that tactile reminder for my support thumb's placement.

Marty's Weapon: HK P2000sk

Total Rounds per weapon in this session: 30

Total Round count in weapon: 1147

Leah's Weapon: HK VP9

Total Rounds per weapon in this session: 240

Total Round count in weapon: 800?

Leah's Weapon: Sig Sauer P238

Total Rounds per weapon in this session: 36

Total Round count in weapon: 400?


 Today was the first time we shot steel. It is also the first time we shot anything smaller than a 8.5"x11" target from 30 feet out. The 4" circles can be humbling! But we loved it! I look forward to perfecting the set up and adding some more steel targets for the coming weekend! Should be great. Also we reminded ourselves again to grab the flashlights and get back to support and strong hand only firing and defensive scenarios.

 

 

 

 

Training Date: 13 Dec 2015

Time: 11 am    Weather: 65 & Sunny  Location:  Coble's Farm

 Ammunition Used

50 x Defender Ammunition Company Factory New .380 ACP Plated Round Nose 90gr

40 x Defender Ammunition Company Factory Remanufactured .223 Remington Full Metal Jacket 55gr

100 x American Eagle AR223 .223 Remington Full Metal Jacket 55gr

88 x Defender Ammunition Company Factory Remanufactured 9 mm Luger Hollow Point 147gr

135 x Defender Ammunition Company Factory Blemish 9 mm Luger Plated Round Nose 115gr

50 x Defender Ammunition Company Factory New 9 mm Luger Hollow Point 124gr

100 x Defender Ammunition Company Factory New .45 ACP Plated Round Nose 230gr

22 x Defender Ammunition Company Factory Remanufactured .45 ACP Hollow Point 230gr

30 x 12 gauge 00 Buck

More pics from the range day here


 

Marty

Marty's Vp9 H&K VP 9 9 mm Luger rounds fired: 33Team Duals 27 Aug 12 4

Marty's Sub Compact H&K P2000sk 9 mm Luger rounds fired: 40

Marty's 45, H&K 45c, .45 ACP rounds fired: 122

Leah

Leah's VP9 H&K VP 9 9 mm Luger rounds fired: 105

Leah's Sig SIG Sauer P238 .380 ACP rounds fired: 50

Jared, Sean, & the Group

The Ruger Ruger MKII P85 9 mm Luger rounds fired: 85

Borrowed Rifles Colt AR-15 Gen .223 Remington rounds fired: 140

Mossberg 12 gauge, OO Buck rounds fired: 30

 


 Today was a plinking day, no pictures of targets, no analysis of shot groups, just fun. We started with the rifles. We started at 10 yards and everyone fired about 10 rounds from standing. After that we moved back to 100 feet and started ringing steel. Some shot from kneeling, standing or off the table.  After everyone was warmed up, on target, and their blood was flowing, we transitioned to handguns.

We started at 4 yards with the pistols, three people on the firing line at a time. After everyone's groups were on point we moved back to 10 yards and engaged the steel targets and the paper targets. This was the first time we used the saw horse configuration to hang the steel targets and it worked well. The only shots that hit the wooden frame came when Marty was shooting his VP9 from 100 feet. Click here for a closer shot of the saw horse set up. All steel targets were purchased from Shoot Steel.

Most of the day was spent at 30 feet/10 yards because, yes, you guessed it, shooting steel is just frickin' awesome.

When everyone was done with handgun shooting we transitioned to the 12 guage so Sean could break in his new Mossberg. Everyone was able to experience the kick and power of 12 gauge 00 Buckshot and witness the damage it inflicts at close range.

We finished up the day with Leah and Marty running three sets of the Lucky Charms drill from 12 feet. This is the first time we have put ourselves under the stress of a timer and it was both humbling and informative. A chronograph (versus the iPhone App we used) is in order as we really need to spend more time on drawing, presentation, and target aquisition. The Lucky Charms drill adds another layer to the congitive functions of target aquistion as it requires memorization of a target set. This was a great way to end the day because it refinforced why we are shooting as most of the day was simply plinking and not focusing too much on shoot groups, etc.

I need to take some time to talk about my preferred ammunition manufacturer, Defender Ammunition Company. Veteran owned and operated, I have never had a less than outstanding experience in the shop or on the phone with any staff member.

Their ammunition can be found in a number of local gun shops/ranges and if you are local they have public hours two days a week. More on that in a minute. I am still working on syncing the round count on our handguns between this site, two phone apps, and a written log, but give or take 200 rounds, the following is accurate. We have fired just over 2500 rounds of Defender Ammunition mostly in 9mm but also .380 and in the last week .223 and .45 ACP. Roughly half has been remanufactured and half has been new. About 600 rounds has been hollow point the rest round nose. We have never had an ammunition failure. Again, we have never had an ammunition failure. Additionally, I can say unequivocally that this ammunition shoots cleaner than any other ammunition I have purchased with the exception of Lehigh and that is because we not fired enough of it for a comparison as it is premium self-defense ammunition that we do not use on the range.

This is not a formal review that includes penetration tests, fps tests, etc. This is primarily anecdotal. Feel free to send me some ballistics gel and some high speed equipment and I will join the YouTube gun reviewer community smiley cool. I have done side by side tests in .45 and 9mm with Winchester and Defender. My shot groups are consistently tighter with the Defender Ammunition at 5, 7, and 12 yards. These tests were done with Defender's both round nose and hollow point against Winchester's round nose. Recently, after having Jamie at Defender explain to me their use of Berry's Hybrid Hollow Points I tried out several hundred rounds of their 9mm 124gr Hollow Points at a range day. I would never suggest using remanufactured ammunition for self-defense. Factory new is another story. Defender Ammunition's hollow point series, again anecdotally, feels like I am shooting premium self-defense hollow point rounds. It more closely replicates self-defense rounds than round nose and therefore, in my opinion, is what you should shoot regularly. With the exception of sales, I fully intend to only shoot this ammunition.

What's it cost? Obviously prices fluctuate and subsequently Defender Ammunition Company does not post their prices. I can tell you that prior to finding Defender, I purchased 1000 round lots from Freedom Ammunition online and was very happy. Here is a couple of kickers, the second of which I hesitate to share but because I like this company so much I am going to spill the beans. First, if you do not reload, you can turn in your spent brass to Defender and you will get a nice store credit that you can use the same day. Sort your brass because it pays more or don't and settle for less money back. Second, the big secret is factory blemished ammunition. You may have noticed this at the top of the report under the ammunition used. Factory blemished ammunition is simply the same quality remanufactured ammunition with brass that is not pretty enough to sell to retailers. It is perfect for us. I paid under $10 for a box of 50 rounds of 9mm 115 grain round nose ammunition. DEAL! I paid more than $10 less for a box of 50 rounds of .45 ACP 230 grain hollow points than you will at Wal-Mart. So there you go, be there when they open on Fridays and beat the rush to clear out the factory blemished shelves.

I am not a professional or even an amateur reviewer. This website if really just for me and my wife to document and review how and what we are doing on the range. I have simply been so impressed with Defender Ammunition from the owners and staff and the ammunition itself that I felt compelled to share it. If you have the occasion to try them or their product I encourage you to do so.

Happy Shooting!

~Marty

 

 

 

 

 

 

Training Date: 4 Dec 2015

Time: 2 pm    Weather: Indoors   Location:  Guns Plus, Spring Lake, NC

 

Ammunition

Brand:  Defender Grain/cal:  124 grain/9mm Type: HP reman

Brand:  Defender Grain/cal:  230 grain/45 Type: RN reman velocity 781 fps

Brand:  Winchester Grain/cal:  230 grain/45 Type: RN reman


 

Marty's HK45c

Weapon: HK 45c
Total Rounds per weapon in this session: 128
Total Round count in weapon: 128

This was the first time shooting my new HK 45c. It performed flawlessly as expected. After sustained shooting, let's say after 5 shots in under 5 seconds, I do start to lose my support hand placement. Currently the small backstrap is installed, I will switch this out to the medium tonight during cleaning as I miss the ergonomics of the VP9. It is the side panels that are missing ergonomically but will see what changing the backstrap accomplishes. Below are the results from each magazine. I admit to shooting to fast for the best practice. I will say that if you put down the 45c and pick up a VP9 you will feel like the front site post does not come off the target no matter how fast you shoot. Back to the 45c...I was considering switching the trigger out for a light LEM trigger to match my P2000sk but I have changed my mind. The trigger on the 45c is excellent and it has yet to be broke in. More shooting tomorrow!

Weapon: HK VP9
Total Rounds per weapon in this session: 64
Total Round count in weapon: 2425 

 


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